Should obese people receive treatment as well as disability benefits?

Discussion in 'Society, Culture and Politics' started by DarkMist, Nov 24, 2017.

  1. DarkMist

    DarkMist Guest

    Some people struggle to live a normal life due to their obesity. No matter how they got there they are now finding life incredibly hard. And we should give them help. The same as we do alcoholics and smokers.

    But should the benefits be given with treatment to reduce weight. To make the long term cost of supporting someone cheaper. To work to get them off benefits by making them less or no longer obese. Do the benefits keep them stuck where they are. Or do they help to support them as they cannot lead a normal life.
  2. Big Andy

    Big Andy Senior Member Staff Member

    I think some encouragement would be a good idea, the best way of doing that i do not know.
  3. classic33

    classic33 Senior Member

    I'd not blame benefits for keeping an obese person out of work or living a "normal" life. How do you stop someone from eating? Smokers were shoved out of sight, then outside.

    What support, through benefits were given to either of the two groups metioned, alcoholics and smokers? Should the system be used in such a way as to prevent payment due to being overweight. If it is, where do we stop? I'm not certain if this applies everywhere, but there is a scheme whereby someone on benefits and looking for work, can buy a secondhand bike fairly cheap. The aim being to increase the the exercise that person gets.
  4. Joey Shabadoo

    Joey Shabadoo Regular Member

    Many people, women especially, suffer from conditions like shallow hip syndrome (Hip Dysplasia) that means they need hip replacements but these prosthetics have a limited life so are generally only given to people over 55. In the meantime the debilitating effects of the condition mean the sufferers become less mobile or wheelchair-bound, exercising correspondingly less and putting on weight (not to mention associated depression and self-esteem issues). So they're fat because they don't exercise, they don't exercise because they need new hips but they can't get new hips until they're 55.

    TL:biggrin:R - sometimes obesity is a result of other factors beyond the control of the sufferer.
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  5. Aitch

    Aitch Member

    Women, hey. Going round getting pregnant and needing medical treatment, specialists, midwives, gynecologists, nurses, hospitals, and every kiddie is a burden on the male taxpayer. No woman should get pregnant without treatment to stop them ever getting preggers again!!!

    Or we could think we're all in this together.
  6. classic33

    classic33 Senior Member

    Normally takes two on that one though.
    But I did ask where do we stop.
  7. classic33

    classic33 Senior Member

    The add at the top of this page.
  8. Jezza

    Jezza Regular Member

    You'll never legislate away obesity.
    Some people like eating a lot.
    "You can take a horse to water... etc."
  9. Baron Vlad Harkonenn

    Baron Vlad Harkonenn Regular Member

    How about salad only food vouchers instead of cash for pizzas and cake?
  10. mr_cellophane

    mr_cellophane Regular Member

    That is rubbish. I know someone who got a new hip when he was in his 30's. Because they only have a limited life, he had had a second one before he was 55.
  11. Joey Shabadoo

    Joey Shabadoo Regular Member

    I take it you missed "are generally only given to people over 55".

    I'm sure there are exceptions to any rule.
  12. pubrunner

    pubrunner Active Member

    Folk need to be informed about healthy eating choices from a very early age. Additionally, it would be useful, if they can develop some kind of fitness ethic at the same time.

    There are many distractions for young folk - computers, gaming devices and mobile phones etc, and it is all too easy to ignore the need for exercise. Am I the only one, with school photos on which there are very few obese kids ?
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  13. IIP

    IIP Guest

    my son 12 years old has a school photo from last year only one fat kid out of 25 not obese just fat. now how many are less fit than I was at 12 years old, probably most of them,
  14. classic33

    classic33 Senior Member

    Depends on what you call "healthy eating". The Five A Day, may soon become Seven A Day. Or even cease to exist, there's doubts about it(Five A Day) in scientific circles.

    Maybe if they brought back PE lessons in schools, then the idea of exercise being okay, may just be enough to make them continue after they've left school.
  15. IIP

    IIP Guest

    there is P.E in schools 2-3 times per week in week one and 2 dance classes and a P.E class in week two and thats a secondary school.
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