So what should constitute "reasonable grounds" for the police to conduct a stop and search?

Discussion in 'Law, Order and Defence' started by Big Andy, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. Big Andy

    Big Andy Senior Member Staff Member

    Apparently the Inspectorate of Constabulary have reiterated guidance from the College of Policing that suggest that smelling of cannabis isn't enough!

    Seems bonkers to me, surely smelling of an illegal substance is entirely reasonable grounds?
  2. IIP

    IIP Guest

    So what should constitute "reasonable grounds" just that reasonable grounds and not the policy at the moment which seems to be based on skin colour rather than reasonable grounds.
    and yes the smell of an illegal substance is entirely reasonable grounds.
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  3. classic33

    classic33 Senior Member

    If we go with "smelling cannabis" alone, there'd be a lot more people being stopped. And it wouldn't be down to skin colour or the area the person lived.

    I'd go with seeing it used as a stronger safeguard, for those who may be doing the stopping. Even that isn't without it's own pitfalls. Seen taking(using?) Class C drugs by a traffic warden, when they were still part of the police. He reported it, I got a free escort to the police station to explain why I had them on/in my possession. Took a while to actually convince them the anti epliptic medication(Clobazam & Clonazepan) were mine, and I'd every right to be carrying them.
  4. Bromptonaut

    Bromptonaut Rohan Man

  5. classic33

    classic33 Senior Member

    In my case I don't think that applied. Traffic wardens worked alongside the police, with no power of arrest. The one who reported me passed the information on, which the police acted on.

    What I was on at the time, were Class C, in the eyes of the law. Not believed in the street, hence the visit to the local station. For a better search and more questions. One of mine was for the "police doctor" to be called.
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2017
  6. Bromptonaut

    Bromptonaut Rohan Man

    My reply was to the OP. There's (I think) no olfactory evidence with the epileptic medicines you mention. So completely different scenario to OP point about smell of cannabis.
  7. classic33

    classic33 Senior Member

    I'd said I'd use the sight of using it as a stronger safeguard for those who'd be doing the stopping.

    I was seen with a quantity of small white tablets. As a result of that I was stopped and searched. Unwilling to believe me in the street, and it meant the visit to the local. That could have lead to action being taken.

    The class of drug doesn't alter because of the person using them.
  8. mr_cellophane

    mr_cellophane Regular Member

    I was told of someone who adopted a retired police sniffer dog. He had trouble taking it for walks because it was forever sitting down in front of people. :stop:
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